‘Love, Learn And Let Go’ An Interview With Leader, Author, Coach David Veech

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Andrew Hryniewicz

So hello everyone and a very warm welcome to another edition of the Destiny Awakening Interviews podcast.

I’m Andrew Wayfinder. And I’m joined today by David Veech, an entrepreneur, author, teacher, speaker and leadership consultant.

And a very warm welcome to you David. Where are you hanging out today?

David Veech

Hey, thanks, Andrew. I’m hanging out in brisk, cool central Ohio.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Okay, so let’s get on to your work and your books.

David Veech

Yes, sir.

Andrew Hryniewicz

David Veech is the founder and CEO of leadersights.com. As a retired Army officer, David has written two best-selling books, founded two successful international consulting firms.

And provides executive coaching, leadership development and problem solving for companies and government agencies around the world.

His message will inspire you and your teams to obliterate obstacles, accelerate innovation, and elevate performance, leaving everyone motivated and engaged for the future.

And what I’m fascinated about is, David is a retired Army officers, CEO and entrepreneur. And he has this amazing topic, he wants to talk about “Love, Learn and Let Go: How To Create A Fully Engaged Workplace.”

And David’s going to unpack that idea by answering six questions.

So the first question, David, is: who is your ideal client, and what’s the transformation your work helps them achieve?

David Veech

I’m looking for leaders of organizations who accept that things have to change, and they’re willing to drive that change.

So I’m focused much more on organizations than on individuals. But because an organization is just a group of individuals, they both have to work together.

My ideal client is mid-range kind of companies trying to break through for something new in the future.

And they know they can’t do it with their current culture. So I try to help them identify where they need to go and what they’re doing to get there.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Okay, question number two, what’s the biggest challenge they’re facing, when they come to see you?

David Veech

The biggest challenge is often themselves… and their willingness to make those three decisions that I summarize as “Love, Learn and Let Go”, because they’ve never experienced success by doing things this way.

And so we try to repeat those patterns of success, even though the environment around us has completely changed…

And if the environment has changed, doing what you’ve always done will never get you where you want to go. So I try to help them see that as well.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Okay, so we’re question number three, what’s the number one insight you would share with them to help them right now,

David Veech

I would say that the number one thing is that they really got to look inward… They’ve got to really reflect on who they are, and who they want to become.

And they really have to muster the courage to make this decision.

From now on, that they’re going to go in every day with Love as the foundation of their relationship.

They’re going to decide to place the needs of their people over their own, above everything else.

And then learn what those needs really are. And work to satisfy those needs…

And then build systems that allow them to let go, and let those people thrive on their own. Without their hand holding, controlling, micromanaging, babysitting. Call it what you will.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Yeah, that sounds really… what we were talking about just before the call. And that was a very powerful statement. And it reminds me of Max Dupree, the former president of Herman Miller, the designer furniture company.

And he wrote a book years ago, called Leadership Jazz, where he said the job of the leader is to set the vision and say “Thank you”.

David Veech

Yes, and get out of the way… Yeah. Give them the resources they need to thrive.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Yeah. And so question number four, what concept book program or talk has been most impactful in your experience, in your own development?

David Veech

I think the most important thing for my development was a job in the army, when I was the assistant brigade training officer in Germany in the 80s.

And my boss was a servant leader, that I didn’t even realize what a servant leader was then, okay.

I realized that when I was working for him, I hated it because I was working so many hours. And I could never seem to get anything right. Every time I sent something to this guy, he would just bring it back and it’d be dripping with the red ink corrections.

But instead of just tossing it on my desk and telling me how screwed up it was, he always made a point to sit down and kind of share where we can go with this.

And over time, I got to the point where I could send him something and it would come back clean. Or I would actually hear from his boss, who everything eventually went to, who would come down the hall and tell me what a fantastic job I’d done.

Even though I had done everything with this other guy, he never took credit for anything.

So that experience — once I understood what he was doing — then the hours really accelerated. Then I worked more hours and worked harder than ever before.

Because what I wanted to do, from that point on, was to make him look fantastic to everybody else in the organization.

And outside the organization, that became my mission was to make him successful…

And as I reflected on that, 20 years later, trying to figure out what the hell did leaders need to do? I really understood that he knew exactly the things that I needed. And he put my needs above his own.

And it worked!

And the resulting energy that I poured into working for him was 100 times more valuable than anything else that you could get from anybody.

So, if more leaders could have that connection with the people that they’re working for…

Then how much more progress can we make without just banging our heads against the wall?

So that was again… that experience happened 20 years before I realized twhat happened. And it’s just shaped everything that I’ve done for the past 15 years.

Andrew Hryniewicz

That’s a great a great story. Thank you

So question number five, what free resource Would you like to share with the audience that will help them?

David Veech

Well, I am happy to provide a free copy of the first book I wrote, which was called The C4 Process. And it’s a book on problem solving. But it’s got a lot of my underpinning philosophy that I was shaping up.

It was published in 2010. It’s www.leadersights.com/free-downloads/

And they’ll be able to find the book and a few other little goodies in there that they might want to play with.

And I also offer a 30-minute free consultation: just to just have a chat with somebody and see if there’s something that they need, that I might be able to help them with. Or if I can find the resources to help them.

I’m happy to have that conversation.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Okay, that’s great. So the last question number six, what should I have asked you that I didn’t?

David Veech

Maybe what’s been the most unlikely learning source that you’ve discovered that has an amazing effect on the way people think? And it’s an outdoor sport called Orienteering.

Orienteering is a sport where the organizers produce a map of a particular area, and they hang orange and white markers at particular spots on these particular key pieces of terrain on this map.

And connect them in a way that you have to follow your own route to discover each one of these markers. And it’s a race, so the fastest one wins.

But what it does is, it shows that there’s a map… But if you don’t know how to read the map, you can’t get anywhere, right?

So you have to understand how to use the actual tool itself. And there’s other tools like a compass to help you.

But you constantly have to think. Because, everywhere you go between each one of those control points, there are multiple ways to get there.

And you have to decide very quickly which way you’re going to go. And you learn immediately whether your decision was good or not.

If you get stuck in a bunch of brambles, you’ve probably made the wrong decision…

If you get stuck at the bottom of a cliff and you’ve got to go up, you’ve probably made the wrong decision…

So it always forces you to do a complete evaluation of multiple alternatives.

And I turn that straight into leadership relationships with other people and how to deal with people. Because there are always multiple options.

You don’t have a lot of time to choose. So the more practice you can get, the more effective those decisions are going to be.

And then the freedom that comes with being capable of navigating your way from one point to another. And solving the problems along the way is very liberating.

And is something that really contributes to your ability to letting go.

Andrew Hryniewicz

Well, that’s a great place to stop. Thank you so much for your time, David.

David Veech

Thanks for having me, Andrew. This has been a wonderful conversation.


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